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Re: [Resolved] Cannot start the game

PostPosted: 26 Jun 2014, 11:28
by Ayoross
I'm using .NET framework 4.5.1, not 3.5. Is it a problem ?

Re: [Resolved] Cannot start the game

PostPosted: 26 Jun 2014, 11:50
by Kroah
The .Net 4.x runtime does not include the .Net 3.x runtime. So you need to have a correct installation of the .Net 3.5 framework.

During the Windows 7 install, .Net 3.5 is copied to your HDD, but may be disabled by default.
That's why you need to check if the feature "Microsoft .Net Framework 3.5.1" is enabled in your "Windows Features" panel:
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If it's already checked, maybe your .Net 3.5 installation is corrupted.
To repair it, an easy way is to uncheck the feature, click OK, reboot, then check again the feature, click OK, reboot.

Can you check if the feature is checked in your panel and, if this is the case, repair it as explained above ?

Usually, when a C# application crashes at start up without showing any .Net exception/stack trace, this means something happens before the framework is called.
That's why the first things to check are the .Net framework (todo), XNA (done), user rights (done), etc.

Re: [Resolved] Cannot start the game

PostPosted: 26 Jun 2014, 20:09
by Ayoross
In fact .NET Framework 3.5.1 was installed, so I uninstalled it then reinstalled, no effect.

Here is the dxdiag.

Re: [Resolved] Cannot start the game

PostPosted: 26 Jun 2014, 21:20
by Kroah
Everything seems ok in your DxDiag :/

Maybe can you check the event viewer (Observateur d'événements) ?
First run again CoCoNet until it crashes, then open the event viewer.
In the left pane "Windows Logs" (Journaux Windows), check if you see an error inside "Application", "Sécurité", "Installation", etc... concerning CoCoNet (normally you should).

I hope this will give more information on the crash...

For example, here's an error event for Future Pinball:
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Nom de l’application défaillante Future Pinball.exe, version : 1.9.2008.1225, horodatage : 0x4d1d68d3
Nom du module défaillant : ILU.dll, version : 0.1.6.5, horodatage : 0x3d387f39
Code d’exception : 0xc0000005
Décalage d’erreur : 0x000093ab
ID du processus défaillant : 0x1058
Heure de début de l’application défaillante : 0x01cf87f459118e0e
Chemin d’accès de l’application défaillante : D:\Future Pinball\Future Pinball.exe
Chemin d’accès du module défaillant: D:\Future Pinball\ILU.dll
ID de rapport : 92943823-f3e9-11e3-bfca-d43d7e576289
Nom complet du package défaillant :
ID de l’application relative au package défaillant :

Re: [Resolved] Cannot start the game

PostPosted: 26 Jun 2014, 21:33
by Ayoross
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Nom du journal :Application
Source :       Application Error
Date :         26/06/2014 20:07:05
ID de l’événement :1000
Catégorie de la tâche :(100)
Niveau :       Erreur
Mots clés :    Classique
Utilisateur :  N/A
Ordinateur :   Fred
Description :
Nom de l’application défaillante CoCoNet.exe, version : 1.0.2.47, horodatage : 0x50071709
Nom du module défaillant : KERNELBASE.dll, version : 6.1.7601.18409, horodatage : 0x53159a86
Code d’exception : 0xe0434f4d
Décalage d’erreur : 0x0000c42d
ID du processus défaillant : 0x%9
Heure de début de l’application défaillante : 0x%10
Chemin d’accès de l’application défaillante : %11
Chemin d’accès du module défaillant: %12
ID de rapport : %13
XML de l’événement :
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="Application Error" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>100</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2014-06-26T18:07:05.000000000Z" />
    <EventRecordID>163253</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>Application</Channel>
    <Computer>Fred</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data>CoCoNet.exe</Data>
    <Data>1.0.2.47</Data>
    <Data>50071709</Data>
    <Data>KERNELBASE.dll</Data>
    <Data>6.1.7601.18409</Data>
    <Data>53159a86</Data>
    <Data>e0434f4d</Data>
    <Data>0000c42d</Data>
  </EventData>
</Event>

Re: [Resolved] Cannot start the game

PostPosted: 26 Jun 2014, 21:56
by Kroah
The crash occurs in the KERNELBASE.dll.
A KERNELBASE.dll error can be anything from corrupted dll, rights restrictions, etc, to video driver problem...

Unfortunately, tracing the program execution without Visual Studio is not trivial.

You can try one last thing (if you haven't already did it):
disable you antivirus,
uninstall CoCoNet,
install CoCoNet,
run CoCoNet with administrator rights,
...wait for the crash..
enable your AV

PS: i've just run CoCoNet on a Windows 7 Pro 64 bits without any crash... :/

Re: [Resolved] Cannot start the game

PostPosted: 26 Jun 2014, 22:19
by Ayoross
kernelbase.dll don't seem corrupt.
I checked with "sfc /scannow" and the tool "DLL suite".

I can install a Visual studio express edition if it can help.

Re: [Resolved] Cannot start the game

PostPosted: 26 Jun 2014, 22:25
by Kroah
Ayoross wrote:kernelbase.dll don't seem corrupt.

No no, i don't say it is corrupt.
Kernelbase is one of the windows core program. So when something goes wrong in Windows (for example one of the .Net dll corrupted, video driver incompatibility, etc), most of the time this is this dll which throws an exception (and without giving anymore information...).

Thank you for proposing to install VS, but express will not work with CoCoNet :?. And installing a fresh environment of VS+XNA+Shaders takes some time.

As is, i don't have anymore idea. Sorry.

Re: [Resolved] Cannot start the game

PostPosted: 26 Jun 2014, 23:55
by Ayoross
Anyway thanks for your responsiveness.
I'll continue to do some tests and report if I find a solution.

Re: [Resolved] Cannot start the game

PostPosted: 10 Apr 2015, 00:46
by toto007
It's about admins right, right click on the folder and take total control of it.

Re: [Resolved] Cannot start the game

PostPosted: 02 Oct 2016, 01:32
by Ghost
Hello,

First of all thanks for your devotion and the excellent game(s) conversion :P

I had the same problem with KERNELBASE.dll coconet appcrash.

It was solved by installing Microsoft XNA Framework Redistributable 3.1 (xnafx31_redist.msi) on Win7 pro ( version 4 was already installed) 8)